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beethoven one? >> oh. 5557. >> reporter: -- new york. >> very funny. good stuff. remember, you can always follow what's going on here in "the situation room" on twitter. tweet me @wolfblitzer. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." the news continues next on cnn. hello, everyone. don lemon here at cnn world headquarters in atlanta. thank you so much for joining us. the city of kansas city shocked tonight after an apparent murder/suicide involving one of their nfl players. linebacker jovan belcher is dead. he killed himself with a gun in front of his coach, his general manager, and police officers near arrowhead stadium. about half an hour earlier police say he killed his girlfriend. from internet millionaire to
fugitive, john mcafee gave a very bizarre and exclusive interview to cnn from his hideaway in central america. you're going to hear it in a moment. and jordan davis, 17 years old, today was his funeral. jordan was shot dead after an argument about loud music. we spoke to his broken-hearted father who has a message for all parents of teenagers. personal tragedy from the world of sports to report to you first. police say a player for the nfl's kansas city chiefs shot and killed his girlfriend this morning and then drove to the team's training facility where he turned the gun on himself. police identified him as 25-year-old jovan belcher. he had been with the team for four years and he and his girlfriend were parents of a 3-month-old daughter. michael coleman of kansas city's kctv has more now. >> reporter: evidently what happened was he killed his girlfriend, came over to the stadium where there was a scheduled team meeting, and he's in the parking lot.
the police by this time, they heard the news, they're looking for a black man who has a gun, supposedly a chiefs player, he arrives at the stadium, he's in the parking lot for the players, the general manager, scott pioli, the head coach romeo crennel, they're talking to him, their lives were never in danger. they said they never felt they were in danger. and when the police arrived, that's when mr. belcher pulls out the gun and shoots himself in this parking lot about 100 yards behind me. and right there in front of the gm and the coach. >> michael? what about his reputation? did he have any off the field troubles that anyone knew about? you said he was the last guy you expected. did anyone know about any trouble? >> reporter: none. >> none. >> reporter: none. this guy was very quiet, kept to himself, he's a hard worker and, you know, i don't want to make it sound like he was a monster because he kept to himself, but he was a concentrated, focused young man, 25 years old. i used to work and live in long island, he's from west babylon
high school. and when i got there, he had just left to go to maine to play college football. but the buzz about him was still going strong even after he left and the buzz i always heard about him was great guy, give you the shirt off his back and had a very strong sense of family. >> he was inspirational. he was a nondraft player. as you were saying, an overall good guy. >> reporter: overall good guy. let's face it, not many guys play in the national football league from maine. okay? that speaks to his dedication right there alone and his focus. and as i understand tonight, his high school is playing for a state championship. so i'm pretty sure the coach always used him as a great example of being a good role model and to think what these kids are thinking about right now if they know about this, it is heart breaking. >> the game is scheduled to go on tomorrow in arrowhead. the mayor said he feels an obligation to play the game. why? >> reporter: good question. both of these teams, they're not going to the playoffs, if you
wait until after the season, what are they playing for? and let's face it, man, this is a business and i've been doing sports for a long time, this has never happened before, don. this never happened before where a current player during a season kills himself and now the team has to figure out what to do. i think there may be a slight possibility this game could have been postponed because a statement, the last statement by the chiefs today read that romeo crennel and the chiefs captains had decided in advising the nfl they do want to play this game. it is going to be a much different tone tomorrow. a very interesting tone because it is not about wins and losses. this is about a little girl, a little 3-month-old girl who lost her parents in the prime of their lives. he was 25. miss perkins, his girlfriend, was 22. and so wins and losses put aside, and to your earlier point, should there be a game played this weekend? you look at the bigger picture, probably not. >> thank you, michael coleman. now on to other news, john mcafee made a fortune as a pioneer of anti-virus software.
he spent the last several weeks running from authorities in belize. police want to question him about the murder of his neighbor. until last night nobody had seen him. he contacted cnn's martin savage and sat down with him for an exclusive interview. martin joins us live from belize. martin, what did john mcafee say? >> reporter: you know, don, this was an interview that ranged from at times stone cold clarity and credibility to downright off the wall kind of crazy talk, a sense of paranoia. it was quite remarkable. there were times you just sensed that he was telling you everything in his heart, but you weren't sure if everything in his mind was quite right. listen to how it began. >> let me ask you a couple of questions i know the police would ask. did you kill greg fall? >> i barely knew the man and why would i kill him? he was a neighbor that lived 200 yards down the beach. i did not kill the man.
i knew nothing about his death until the following morning. >> but you did have a stormy relationship or you did have a past with him? >> i have spoken 50 words to the man in five years. he would go by my property and complain about my dogs as everybody did. i complained about my dogs. they barked loudly and kept me awake at night. i did everything that i could to contain them and they were getting better. he owned dogs himself. there is no reason he would have done something to my dogs. but by the way, the night before he was killed, four of my dogs were poisoned. my first thought was, the government, more harassment. >> you thought that the dogs had been killed by the government? >> or they had done everything else to me, why not -- they already killed one of my dogs, now they killed four of my dogs, what is the difference sir? the morning i heard about greg's death, the first thing i went through my mind was, jesus, they got the wrong man. they were sending a gang of gangsters to come and whatever, robbers, pretending to be a robbery, to kill me. and they got my neighbor instead. >> reporter: it is quite clear
that, you know, he is under or suffering from a great deal of paranoia and he openly admits that. he's extremely careful in any communication that we have. he believes that authorities are closing in on him. but he also says he's never gone to give himself up. >> so let's see, martin, he's in disguise, he's in hiding somewhere in belize, why do you think he called you to talk? >> reporter: well, you know, first and foremost i've been after him for a couple of weeks and i have said that we were looking to get his side of the story. we know that there is a terrible tragedy, and this is something that he admits as well, the death of greg fall, his neighbor, is awful. he's offering a $25,000 reward, he says, to anybody who has the information about how he died. but then there are the peculiar aspects about him. that's being mild. i mean, he did come disguised, dressed as an old man, and then on top of that, he is living and on the run with a 20-year-old
girl, he's 67, by the way. and he admits that most of the time he's got at least seven girls living with him. and i talked to a number of those girls. he doesn't lead a normal life, which is why many people find it hard to believe what he's saying, even though he swears it's true. >> sounds like a lifetime movie starring you and him. thank you. appreciate it, martin. the family of jordan davis buried their 17-year-old son today. jordan was killed at a florida gas station a few days ago by a man who said he felt threatened by the teenager and his friends. the case had been compared to the stand your ground case also a florida -- in florida involving teenager trayvon martin. >> i believe it was strictly anger, you know. people try to associate that whenever people of color are different from someone else and i believe, i still believe to this day, unless the gentleman tells me different that it was anger that was involved and having the accessibility of a gun. >> so your focus is on these
guns. >> yes. >> your t-shirt even, show us this. >> yes, yes. kill guns, not kids. kill guns, not kids. so we have to kill these gun laws that allow them -- the law enforcement has been trained and they're the only ones i feel that should have guns in public. >> this case has gotten a lot of attention, national attention, in some ways compared to the trayvon martin case. what are your thoughts about that? >> i don't think it's -- it just happened to be an african-american child and the nonafrican-american person that pulled the trigger. i think that's the only comparison. but i don't think the reason is the same. i think the reason for this gentleman was strictly anger and having the availability of a weapon. >> when people think about jordan davis, what should they remember? >> remember he's a 17-year-old child and you have a 17 or 15 or 16-year-old child, you know. and if some stranger tells you, gives you an order to turn your music down, most of the time they won't, most of the time
they will give you a smart lip or whatever. but you as an adult, as parents, we don't expect people in the world to just gun down a child because of that. we don't expect a child to lose his life and other children in the car, could have killed them. there were three more individuals in the car, teenagers, and he sprayed the car with bullets. and that's why, you know, what are you thinking? it is in a lot where there is a gas station, and you're spraying bullets. so i just do not know what thought he had in mind, and my heart is just torn for my son and i hope the public realizes we need our time to grieve and -- but this is a fight that is going to go on long after i bury my son. >> gosh. george howell reporting, can't imagine that father is even able to stand up right now. you know, the man who shot jordan davis, michael dunn, was denied bail and remains in jail. he claims he pulled his gun and
opened fire out of self-defense. up to speed on the day's other headlines. protests in cairo over the young democracy's in constitution. supporters of president mohamed morsi packed the streets near cairo university as morsi sets a date for a vote on the new constitution. morsi's critics say the constitution was rushed through and paves the way for islamic law. mexico has a new president, enrique pena nieto took the oath of office before the country's congress. his inauguration returned the institutional revolutionary party to power 12 years after being turned out of office. that doesn't sit well with mexicans who accuse it of buying the election. hundreds clashed with police outside congress. north korea is going to try again. they want to take another stab at sending a rocket into space. this time, to place a satellite into orbit. this is all coming from north korea state run media. the rocket will be similar to
this one. the planned launch, the window is between december 10th and 22nd. u.s. state department is not happy about it, calling any launch by the north koreans provocative. take a look at live pictures from the white house, which is marking world aids day. a day to ponder the fight against hiv and aids. nations around the globe observe the day in their own way. sydney's famous opera house, lit up in red, the color of aids awareness. other countries held rallies. as of last year, an estimated 34 million people were living with hiv. an awful bus crash today on airport property in miami to tell you about. two people died when a tour bus smashed into an overpass. too low for the bus to clear. police and firefighters removed more than 30 passengers from the windows of the wreck. authorities say the driver was not familiar with the airport and mistakenly drove into a level that could not accommodate a tour bus. an elderly man died at the scene. another died later at the hospital.
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people like ted agoalia. he was a 2008 cnn top ten hero. nischelle turner and ted join me from los angeles. so, we used to be buds. you don't call, you don't write anymore. i don't know what's going on. he's big and famous. >> he's big timing you, huh, don. >> we put him on the set. i don't know what's happening. what's going on? >> he just told me you yelled at him the last time he was with you because he wasn't looking at the camera. so i told him, please look at the camera. we're talking about, you know, getting ready for our big heroes, an all-star tribute ceremony tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern right here on cnn. tad knows firsthand what it is like to be on the stage and honored as a top ten hero. 2008 was your year. that, i can imagine, you were doing such great work before. i can imagine once you were honored as a hero, things really
took off. >> it literally revolutionized my charity. at that point we were just out there going from state to state, storm to storm, responding to disasters, helping out communities. but when the cnn viewers t nominated me to be in the top ten and when the heroes program shined a light on my work, it just brought so many others to help champion my cause and at that point we began to get more donors and to be able to respond to more disasters and help more people. >> you know, mother nature is always going to keep you in business. it is always going to keep you busy and always going to keep you helping people. and you just have been really busy during sandy. you responded to sandy and you rally have been helping the folks on long island out it near and dear to your heart. they all are, but this is really near and dear to your heart. >> i did grow up in long island. and it was amazing to see the storm surge and the wind that struck long island. we were literally just opening up roads for a week and a half, which is a long time, just to
create access to communities. so the storm there was very powerful. we were able to clear roads and help ambulances get to people's homes and get people in need to the hospitals. we were able to power up critical buildings and do a lot more obviously. and it is just amazing to see such a powerful storm hit such a highly populated area. we don't usually see something like that happen. >> no, i've seen -- i saw the same thing when i was right in the middle of katrina. i understand exactly what you're talking about. it is something to see and behold but also the human spirit during those things is something to see as well. because people really start helping people and that's when you see all of your good work put to work. >> yeah, absolutely. it is amazing to see how some of the most difficult challenges we face as human beings really brings out the best of all -- in all of us, and it is just amazing, it is amazing, it is like what we see in the cnn heroes, that spirit is a live and well. and really makes the world a
better place. >> absolutely. tad told me he and i sat next to each other last year on heroes. i was so focused on how wonderful the program was, i'm sorry to say i didn't remember. but i do now. so tad, once a hero, always a hero, is going to help us celebrate these new top ten cnn heroes that we will honor tomorrow night. >> if i know tad, i know he would try to talk to you, let's put it that way. tad, your game, you need to work on your game, man. >> he's a good guy. and a handsome fellow, this tad. he's a handsome fellow. >> you know he's from new york, because he said long island and what i like about tad is he made a ton of money on wall street, was making a ton of money and gave it all away and -- gave it all up and started doing what he's doing now. he is a hero. thank you, guys. thank you very much. >> that's what heros is all about. all right. >> anderson cooper will host cnn heroes an all-star tribute tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern, by the way. straight ahead, a corruption scandal brings down eight city
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half past the hour now. look at the headlines here on cnn. he made a fortune as a pioneer of anti-virus software. but john mcafee has been a man on the run. authorities in belize want to question him about the murder of his neighbor last month. mcafee came out of hiding yesterday and spoke exclusively with cnn's martin savidge. >> how do you see this coming to an end? >> i don't have a crystal ball. i'll continue to fight until something changes. >> you won't turn yourself in. >> i will not. >> john mcafee tells cnn he did not kill his neighbor nor did he hire somebody to do it. it looks like a murder/suicide in the nfl. kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher killed himself in front of his coach and general manager today a few hours after they believe he shot his girlfriend dead in their home. friends, family and fans of
hector macho camacho gathered in spanish harlem today paying final respects to the boxing champion who died last weekend. camacho and a friend were shot while sitting in a car in puerto rico. the other man died at the scene, camacho died in the hospital four days later. hector macho camacho won several world boxing titles in the 1980s. he was 50 years old. a georgia family had to bury their teenage son today. a week after he was shot and killed at a florida gas station. jacksonville police say michael dunn fired his gun into a car full of teenagers, allegedly saying he felt threatened. when it was all over, high school junior jordan davis was dead. i talked with criminal defense attorney holly hughes about the fact that dunn left the scene and allegedly never contacted police before his arrest. >> i can understand he's panicking, he thinks there is a gun. but what really disturbs me about this, not only does he leave the scene, he leaves the state. he goes back to his hotel room,
he spends the night, he hears on the news that this young man has died, that there has been a fatality, from what he did, from the eight shots into an suv full of teenagers. and then he gets in his car and leaves the state. and his whole -- well, i needed an attorney. well, you can get an attorney on the phone. trust me. my clients call me all time of the day and night, okay? so what is disturbing to me is that he fled the state. i think he knows we got a guilty conscience going on. this was over music, don. music. he doesn't say these young men were out there harassing women, he doesn't say he saw them slinging dope, he says i thought their music was too loud. simple answer, roll up your window or back your car up three spots down and this man's family would not be going through christmas without him. >> have you been to florida? there is a gas station on every corner. if you don't like the one you're at, go to another one. >> this to me was just excessive. >> we heard a lot about this stand your ground law,
especially when it comes to the trayvon martin case in recent months. >> right. >> should dunn be able to use the stand your ground. he said he felt threatened. >> he also alleges he saw a shotgun coming out of the window of one of the suv that the young men were in but police looked in that vehicle and didn't find a weapon. none of the young men, as far as we know, and it is early in the case, there will be a lot of investigation, but we don't know of any gang association. the parents all say our children didn't have guns. they weren't those type of young people. >> for lack of a gun, can this stand your ground stand up? >> i don't think so. they can certainly file. you can always file a motion with the court, have your motion and say this was justified and that's basically what it is. i was justified, i was defending myself, i had a legal right to be there, i felt threatened. but if there is no gun found, and the person who was arrested, this man dunn, he flat out admits this all started over loud music. so i don't see him prevailing in any type of stand your ground motion or if it goes to trial, a self-defense motion. >> also in a crowded place. i mean, with a lot of witnesses.
how is that going to -- what part is that going to play? >> it is going to play a huge role. most convenience stores these ok days have very good security cameras. they'll pull the video footage and say, hey, was there a gun protruding from the suv, depending on the angle, have independent witnesses who say we didn't see that. and we didn't hear the young men threatened or we did hear these young men threatened. that's all going to bear out when we see a little more evidence. but it does not look good, don. >> we're not done with this. more tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern. you do not want to miss it. holly hughes, cnn's george howell will both join me live to talk about this case. george interviewed the family, holly hughes knows the law. we're going to break it down for you. up next, charges of corruption and fraud in the small town, a police chief making nearly half a million dollars. we first told you about this story last year. now there is a new twist. he wants more money from the city and the taxpayers. een on t.
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it is a working class town, where charges of corruption and fraud have left taxpayers outraged. the former police chief of bell, california, made a whopping salary, almost a half billion dollars a year. the former chief wasn't charged in the case. and believe it or not, now he says he wants even more money from the city and the state and he's suing to get it. cnn's kyung lah reports now. >> reporter: a 22 year veteran of the bell police force sergeant james cochran is reminded of the corruption that crushed his town at every turn he takes. boarded up buildings, vacant
homes and lots and storefront after storefront for lease. but nowhere is a reminder more stark than his own police station, where he says his former police chief was there for only one reason, greed. >> he was here for his personal gain, he was not here to better the community. certainly not here to better us. >> reporter: he's talking about former police chief randy adams, pulling in a whopping $457,000 a year. for a police force with only 30 officers, way more than top cops in neighboring los angeles, chicago or new york. cash put in his pocket by a city manager and others who were paying themselves inflated salaries. the city manager taking home more than a million dollars. >> yeah, you! >> reporter: this was the reaction when the public found out. outrage, anger boiled over. prosecutors nabbed eight city leaders saying they used public funds like a personal piggy bank, looting the working class city of millions of dollars. they face criminal corruption
charges. chief randy adams wasn't charged. because adams didn't directly control the city's money. but even the judge wondered in court, i don't know why he's not a defendant in this case. so where is adams today? he lives in simi valley, an upper class l.a. suburb 50 miles northwest of bell, just off of country club drive, in a gated community. his five bedroom, five bath, $800,000 home overlooks a picturesque golf course. >> disgusting and the fact that he is living this lavish lifestyle on the backs of us? >> reporter: bell resident denise redarti calls adams the one who got away. >> arrogant, cocky, criminal. if i can find the dictionary where it says corrupt police chief, whatever his picture will be on it. he's the epitome of what is wrong in this country. >> reporter: she says that because of these e-mails from 2009 exchanged between adams and
lank spinaachi, negotiating the terms of police chief, wrote, i'm looking forward to seeing you and taking all of bell's money, just a share of it. she replies, lol, you can take your share of the pie just like us, we will all get fat together. the salary quietly approved by the former city manager. >> my you drop jaw drops when . >> reporter: he can't believe what happened and what is still happening. willmore says walking away with a half million dollar paycheck wasn't enough. the former police chief is now suing the city of bell for what city sources calculate would amount to $600,000 in severance and unused sick days. >> from this small city, from this poor community, to then have it revealed, get fired and actually comes back for severance, it is incredible. it is outrageous.
>> reporter: seeking severance isn't apparently enough. randy adams wants more money from the state of california for his pension. adams is also suing the state to double his pension to half a million dollars a year for the rest of his life. how? his oversized salary in bell. that was his last job. his highest paying job and even though he only held the position for a year, he says his pension should be based on that pay. hi chief randy adam, i'm kyung lah from cnn. we caught up with randy adams in simi valley. the people of bell say you milked them for a salary that was extraordinarily high and now you're trying to do the same thing with the state. >> well, i disagree, of course, with those types of characterizations, and when one day i'm able to tell my complete side of the story, i think you'll see that there is a completely different side to that story. unfortunately i can't really talk at length about it, but that's the situation. >> reporter: did you think you deserved to make double what --
>> i made all the comments i can make at this time. >> reporter: while adams would not elaborate on camera, i did manage to speak to his attorney by telephone. who says that adams is a good cop, a life-long public servant who does deserve to double his pension to half a million dollars a year for that one year of service in bell. but the people who run california's pension system say absolutely not. what is he asking for? >> he's trying to double his pension from $19,000 a month, which is far surpassing almost anyone else in our system as a retiree, to about $38,000 a month. >> reporter: does he deserve $38,000 a month? from the taxpayers? >> the taxpayers are outraged whenever anyone does something like trying to use fraud and deceit and hide the way of which they got paid. and you don't deserve it and it is not allowed. >> reporter: a proposed decision by a state board agrees rejecting adams appeal to increase his pension, but adams is appealing. inside his gated community, he
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>> you want to know why i call it my fabulous disease. >> no, before we talk about that, people talk about hiv or aids, it is a somber thing, you're living with it, millions of people live with it, it doesn't have to be a death sentence. of course we would like to stamp out hiv and aids. but like your attitude about it. so talk about that. >> well -- >> and about having a sense of humor. >> a sense of humor is part of who i am, all these parts are physical manifestations of who i am. and hiv is part of who i am. unfortunately you talk about the people who have somber tones, it is because they think for some reason that i wander around all day long going, oh my gosh, i have hiv. i have health care and people who care about me. i have a sense of humor and so many life events that happened after hiv -- having hiv that i decided that i'm not going to let all that negative stuff about the disease be placed on me. i'm fabulous, my disease is fabulous. >> there you go. i like that. so why did you decide to name
your website that? >> because i wanted to let people know, i know it is a little provocative, but i wanted to let them know i have one up, i believe, on my disease. it is going to have to take on my characteristics. >> in that you're fabulous. >> yes, i am. i am, clearly. >> he comes in, he says, i want to be light, i told you i wanted the madonna lighting. what did my floor director say? >> every light in here is being directed on don. i believe people with hiv have gotten healthier, social stigma has gone up. people feel more licensed to maybe criticize us or be judgmental of us, how you got it, or whatever, because we're not tragic victims anymore. it is not as if we can't talk about it. as a result, i believe that there say lot more discrimination about who you're friends with who you date, all of that. >> we foregget that chlamydia a other diseases are diseases that
young people get. people get cancer or lupus what have you, but that doesn't define you, you're not somehow, because you got a disease, that you brought it up on yourself. >> unfortunately, people like me got wrapped up in the greatest health crisis of the 20th century. and all of the baggage that went along with it. >> yeah, yeah. how has it changed over the years living with the disease? first time i came in contact with it, i wrote a story about it for someone who asked me, in new york city in the '90s, say someone walking down the street with a portable iv and i froze. and the guy's partner looked at me, i don't know why he stopped me and he said, you know, young man, you have your health and he just wanted to be out -- didn't want to be in the hospital anymore. said that to me and it always stuck with me. to have the nerve to walk on the streets of new york city in a hospital gown with a portable iv in the '90s was ballsy.
how has it changed over the year, the stigma? >> it is completely different and fortunately it is different because we were living -- what you witnessed was a soldier that walked out of the bunker for a few minutes. it was a war zone. all our friends were dying and we said good-bye to one every weekend. and so it is incredibly different now in terms of just how i live with it. the amount of my life i spend thinking about hiv is about the amount of time i think about the next blog posting i'll have. it's going to be about hiv, but i'm going to incorporate the rest of my life. >> i'm having a senior moment. what was the broadway play, larry kramer's -- >> normal heart. >> i went to see that, and the curtains went down and it brought me back to the '90s. and i cried. every single person -- did you see that? >> yes. >> it's overwhelming to describe to people what it was like during those times.
>> you're a kroup trouper. what's the lesson on this world aids day? >> the next battle is hiv criminalization. there are laws putting people in jail for not disclosing their status. if they want to know more about that, go to cyril project.com. >> thank you for being a soldier. >> thank you. >> good luck to you. mr. mark king. coming up -- alzheimer's, a devastating disease, now it is silencing the voice of a music legend. glen campbell talks about the end of a long career, that's next. [ male announcer ] it started long ago.
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legend. he has called it a career. glen campbell played the final show of his i lustrous career last night in napa, california. he is suffering from al alzheimer's. he sat down with cnn's miguel marquez. >> reporter: last year, the rhinestone cowboy made a stunning announcement. >> what they diagnose me as? >> alzheimer's. what's alzheimer's? how do you -- >> you start losing your memory. and your ability to reason. ♪ some days i'm so confused lord ♪ ♪ my past gets in my way >> reporter: this isn't glen campbell's first major challenge. he weathered career ups and down and battled drug and alcohol addiction. i was foergiven for being a
dummy. >> reporter: after five decades as a musicing icon, the entertainer is taking his final bow. ♪ ghost on the canvas >> reporter: two summers ago he released his final album, "ghost on the canvas," now wrapping up his farewell tour with a backing band that it features three of his children, including daughter ashley. >> he looks at me sometimes confused and i'll just smile at him. i just try and p make him feel like he's surrounded by people that love him on stage. >> reporter: campbell may be stepping off the public stage, but his guitar will never be far from his side. >> all i wanted to do, ever since i can remember, was play my guitar and sing. ♪ searching the sun for another old road ♪ >> don't cry over spilt milk. get up and be a man and do what you're going to do.
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the houston dynamo to win the mls cup. let's bring in david beckham right now. oh, no, it's paul. paul, we like you, too. 's in los angeles. how are the fans reacting? >> reporter: david, the fans here -- >> i'm don. >> reporter: there was a lot of electricity when the galaxy one. he had a press conference, said it was a spescial one for him. beckham loves los angeles, he says he may get involved in management here, may go to australia. donovan also leaving the galaxy, may go to retirement or possibly come out of it. as i said, don, if you've even been to a rock concert, springsteen or stevie wonder, it was that kind of loud in here. totally typical of the fans here and it actually flies in the face of that stereotype of all l.a. fans are laid-back. so they had a great time here today, oco